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hi this is Grant Cameron and you're

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listening to that UFO podcast

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hi everyone and welcome back to that two

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hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO

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podcast I am joined on Today's Show by

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executive director of the Paradigm

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research group a disclosure Advocate and

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political activist I'd like to welcome

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back to the podcast Stephen Bassett

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Stephen welcome

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and it's good to be with you it's good

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to have you on and it's been a

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fascinating year for the UFO subject and

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when we're talking disclosure and what

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may be on the horizon there's no one

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better to get on than yourself so very

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welcome timing and I've got to start

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with your recent take Stephen on the

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briefing chaired by Senator Christian

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gillibrand with Dr Sean Kirkpatrick if

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you don't mind just sharing your

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thoughts with that to start off

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sure uh this was a standard

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uh briefing not a hearing but a briefing

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in which the head of the new Aero office

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all domain anomaly resolution office

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which Dr Kirkpatrick is the executive

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director and he's he's very very

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competent uh his background is is uh

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excellent and and he's it completely

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solid guy and so I'm I'm pleased that

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they chose him uh and you can easily

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check out his bio online

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uh he came in to report

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to uh her about developments at Arrow

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and the reason why it was her is that

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cursed Senator villabrand was key

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to creating language in the National

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Defense Appropriations act for 2023 uh

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no wait a minute 20 20. it was the

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second one 20 22 second yeah yeah 2022

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uh calling for a lot of things to happen

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over at DOD and what have you so she's

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now following up and she chose to do it

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by holding a a briefing for her

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subcommittee uh in the armed services

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he's on the Intel committee which is

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where she was uh from from that place is

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where she was putting language out there

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for that 2022 NDA Bill uh but she's also

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the the subcommittee uh chairman uh over

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in armed services

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so uh under that uh role she and two

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um senators

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uh uh brought uh Sean in and they they

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chatted with him for a while and he gave

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them an update on what's going on uh and

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it was all basically standard procedure

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uh and I had no I I thought it was great

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and I think number of things came up

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that were significant he used the term

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extraterrestrial uh which is good glad

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to hear that and uh uh beyond that there

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wasn't much more to expect the problem

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of course is that there is so many

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people now that are really anxious about

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getting this information out they know

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it's close

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yeah it's like you know it's like kids

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that that are

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on their way to Disneyland right and

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they're starting to get close to it and

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now they're driving their parents crazy

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you know they're all jumping around the

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car and bouncing around and wanting to

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get there and if and are we there yet

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are we there yet so it's kind of like

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that and I understand that but then a

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little this thing is moving forward now

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and we're on our way and a little

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patience is required even though we have

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been waiting essentially 76 years to

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finally get the truth that was in the

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initial press release that was put out

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by uh you know hot with the approval of

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Blanchard the head of the uh R Us

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Roswell facility air air facility so uh

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that's that's my take on on that uh and

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also a show that gildebrand's commitment

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to this issue is not going away she is

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embracing it pretty fully which is also

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notable because she has presidential

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she's run for president I think she'll

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run again uh so wow imagine that someone

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who clearly has presidential aspirations

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now deep into this issue beyond anything

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that uh secretary Hillary Clinton

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uh was into you know she she never went

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anywhere she was supportive of course

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lady during the Clinton Administration

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uh but she certainly has stepped into

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the issue in 2016. uh and of course he

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has a strong connection with podesta but

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gillibrand is way past that I mean she's

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creating legislation she's holding

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briefings and she's thinking of running

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for president again that tells you where

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this issue is for those that are

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thinking now it's it's just another

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false uh uh attempt to get something

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going and it's a drip drip for this and

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that no no this is the end game of the

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truth embargo we're headed towards

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confirmation

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this was the unclassified portion of the

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conversation that happened there was a

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classified version of this that happened

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before have any of your sources or

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anyone close to you managed to get

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anything out of that as to how that

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section went because it's been very very

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hush-hush from that

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classified so no

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not supposed to be able to get it

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uh I I can't recall if he gave a plus

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classified briefing to her as well I

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don't maybe he did I mean it's not

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unusual uh as we go for it and

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given the fact that this issue has been

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1947. the most classified issue in

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matter in the U.S government more

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classified than our nuclear weapon

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Secrets or whatever military offense

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defense Secrets we've got

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can end the Embargo come out from that

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era of what are you talking about there

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are no ETS two oh yeah there are uh is

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awesomely going to be done in a fully

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public way no no no it's going to be a

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combination of classified briefings and

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public briefings so that things can move

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forward and and uh the dod can feel

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comfortable that the process is not

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going to endanger National Security and

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so inappropriate uh things coming out

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that are classified

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uh there is going to be a concern uh the

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fact is we don't need

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all that classified info we already know

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there's extraterrestrials here and so

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does most of the people if not everybody

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involved in the damn thing on the hill

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and over the dod you already know

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so now it's just a matter of conducting

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the end of the Embargo in a way that's

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responsible and doesn't cause any

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problems for others and people can be

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comfortable with it and that's what's

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going on and I'm perfectly content now

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if they reverse course and suddenly go

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you know uh we've been thinking about it

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and now there's really nothing there we

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need to kind of direct our attentions

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elsewhere then of course I will have

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more to say about that but so will the

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I want I'm surprised that you you said

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Dr Sean Kirkpatrick impressed you you're

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you're content with what he said others

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for intelligence Christopher melon was

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one of those who was a little bit

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scathing online afterwards what

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impressed you about what Dr Sean

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what's that means what I'm saying is is

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he he answered the questions he's

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telling her what's going on

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but uh but people want more they want

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more and they want it now

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now Christopher melon is smart guy okay

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Chris knows what's going on he knows

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this process and and how it goes forward

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and and why uh Kirkpatrick was was

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giving a little briefing to kilogram but

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by going and it's publicly saying well I

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wasn't happy with that or or I mean why

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didn't he say this that's just him

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keeping a little pressure on

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see melon knows a great deal he has been

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involved in the briefings on the hill

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bringing people up there his he has been

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committed from day one uh in day one

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2017 when uh he he came up on the stage

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with Tom Delong and and Tim Jimmy van

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and Lou Elizondo and and made his

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presentation as on the launch of two

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stars Academy of Arts and Sciences

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but I think from day one mellon's goal

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was to end the truth and Barbara

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and and so what he does is always in

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service to that so if if he is being

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somewhat critical of Kirkpatrick

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I view that okay how is that helping to

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end the truth embargo by keeping a

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little pressure on him letting him know

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don't think he's teeing off on people

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he's just letting people know

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we're we understand what's going on but

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we expect more we expect more so that

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that doesn't surprise me that he's he's

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being critical uh or uh uh give giving a

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little push he's not the only one doing

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that uh now some people are radical

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about this they absolutely want it now

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and if they don't get it now then

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whoever's involved is a deep State

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operative working for the uh the Russia

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whatever the hell right and and I I

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can't I can't help that nothing I can do

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I enjoyed your analogy Stephen on Jimmy

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your bowling ball Lane with the bumpers

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to help aid softly softly disclosure and

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help people along the way with this and

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it made me wonder in a way if we hear

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that potentially whistleblowers are

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already bypassing Dr Kirkpatrick and

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going straight to members of congress

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with testimony is that potentially a

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death blow for Kirkpatrick and an arrow

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as an organization and entity and is it

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is it set up to fail in a way that

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something else can coming along or

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someone else can come along that steers

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this more towards the ending of that

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truth embargo because just from the

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I think a lot of people look at Dr Sean

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Kirkpatrick as someone who is trying to

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obfuscate and may you know be that guy

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who tries to put the toothpaste back in

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the bottle well no no that's not what's

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happening right I mean this extreme

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these extreme views need to be model uh

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mollified not mollified they need to be

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uh mitigated uh people are just too

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hyped up I understand it they've been

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waiting for years and years and years

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uh yeah yeah that's but but you what

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you've noted is important

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what's happening now which is

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at a level never seen before

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is that Witnesses not whistleblowers

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they are not whistleblowers and I'll say

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that over and over and over again

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they're not whistleblowers

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Edward uh Snowden was a whistle lore

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Chelsea Manning was a whistleblower and

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there have been others and and and I

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guess guess what happens with them

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right uh you cross that line you end up

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living in Russia or going to jail

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these men are not doing that they're

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mostly men almost all men they're simply

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providing information with this

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testimony about things that are going on

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they're not whistleblowers

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and so that's Point number one point

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number two

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what is happening is that a lot of the

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witnesses Kevin Day being one very

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important example but Ryan Graves and

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others they're not just Witnesses now

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they've become activist Witnesses they

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are some of them I think couple of them

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have registered as lobbyists perhaps and

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and they're they're going online they're

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trying to recruit uh people to get

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involved at Kevin Day right now is is

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trying to using the internet to drop a

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whole list of questions that that need

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to be submitted to NASA which is holding

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a a a a public briefing uh a meeting

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rather on May 31 in order to take

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questions from the public

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uh and so now you've got the witnesses

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becoming activists it wasn't that long

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ago there were no activists at all

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essentially

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and so this this is not 1969 79 89 99

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2009 we are so much further along

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and so rather than look at well this

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person is doing that

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so and and someone else is not doing as

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much

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and look look at it as everyone is doing

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their part everyone is playing a part in

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moving this thing forward

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and the idea that the formal government

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program being put together to uh

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get the public up to speed and get the

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president to a place where he can uh

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confirm the E.T presence

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is somehow got to be just the way we

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want it or just the way someone wants it

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or much more aggressive or this or that

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or anything else because we waited so

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long

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what can I say

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uh uh uh activism

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it's not about how mad can you get

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how extreme can you get

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uh it's about getting it done

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it's about getting the goal it's about

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achieving the prize

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and in this case

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that involves the government running

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through and going through processes that

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they should have done years ago but

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didn't

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and now they have to do it and the fact

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that it's 76 years after they found out

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the at Presence does complicate it

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there's no question it makes it a little

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trickier it makes the public relations

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issues tougher uh but by and large if

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you look at everything that's happening

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it's moving along splendidly

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it is uh but look I don't want to

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tempers people's enthusiasm

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right but again statement like the fact

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that some of the Witnesses are becoming

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uh activist and and making moves is

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going to kill off Arrow no it's not

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arrow is now the defense Department's

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program cross-agency committee to

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address this issue and guess what

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when the president finally confirms the

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non-human intelligence presence and its

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Tech and the accompanying technology

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that's disclosure capital D right

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Arrow will become even bigger and will

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be the entity that in terms of the dod

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that's going to now address what is now

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publicly acknowledged as true throughout

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the world and so it will have far more

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to do Post disclosure than it has now

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frankly right because now it's kind of

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like a

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I mean it's you know it's not like okay

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arrow is set up so over the next 25

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years we can study this phenomena to get

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a you know some sort of uh you know

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resolution of it now

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arrows set up so we can show the flag do

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the right thing so we can get this truth

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embargo over like soon like this year

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like this summer

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but for those that are worried about the

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money being spent it's not a lot though

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gillibrands made it clear she wants more

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so so did Mark Warner this is money well

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spent because everything that is being

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set up

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public facing certainly is going to be

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far more needed

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uh and and in use once we have that

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confirmation of the ET present so it's

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it'll just slide right into the

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post-disclosure world except it'll be

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operating in a new world view meaning

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the all denominate all on all domain

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anomaly uh resolution office will be

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about helping us to know that such and

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such an event was not extraterrestrial

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but that one was and this one was it

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right and uh whatever else is

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appropriate does that mean that arrow is

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going to be the vehicle by which all the

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super secrets are going to be dumped out

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to the public I don't think so I think

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those are going to come in other ways

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from other entities with the approval of

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the president and Congress but it made

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play a role there but again I can't say

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this too often we are winning we are

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close to the end of the race and I ask

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people to just kind of keep it cool

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don't hyperventilate be a little easy on

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each other

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right but don't like melon keep the

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pressure on

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right but do it responsibly

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I think there's a lot of people who

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would take solace and you're your

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positive outlook on this because many

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are ready like you say of of this going

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away but like you have said unlike

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others have said it's very very far down

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the line but for them than have ever

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been in terms of progress for True

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disclosure some people and some of they

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cannot beg our names and influencers on

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this topic have talked a lot recently

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about important events still being a few

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years off in terms of kind of ET

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disclosure and people binding about

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different years like 2027 and such and I

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wonder you're you're thinking things

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could happen as quickly as this summer

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and yeah what do you think when you hear

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people talking about things still being

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years off

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what can I say they're welcome to their

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opinion

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look trust me nothing is guaranteed as

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I've said many times there's huge

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historical things there's very

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significant things going on right now in

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the world uh because of as always bad

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government and bad behavior and the part

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of government and people

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so we have an awful war in the Ukraine

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not some war in Africa between two

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groups or something or but but rather

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between uh a a uh a major nuclear power

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Russia and a uh one of the most a very

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important country Ukraine which wants to

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be part of NATO and all kinds of talks

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about tactical news so yeah really

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serious problem there is in addition of

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course there that we've just gone

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through a pandemic which has helped

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create enormous stress on many countries

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hundreds of millions if not billions of

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people uh and uh Eve with potential

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economic consequences so this is we're

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in rough Seas

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and so

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that could that could create a problem

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and delay this process I hope it doesn't

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because and as I will be lecturing at

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the contact in the desert uh conference

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big event coming up June two to four in

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Indian Wells uh California just uh south

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of Palm Springs big event uh

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contactingthedesert.com

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uh I believe that disclosure may be the

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the doorway to uh or the path will help

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get us to

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dealing with these issues

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so in other words what we don't want to

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do is let these problems which are

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growing delay disclosure it would give

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us motivation to get it done because I

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think post-disclosure some of these

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problems may be addressable and by

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problems I mean the threat of nuclear

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war uh the threat of Chaos in in in

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Nations uprisings uh and and so forth uh

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massive border you know migrations of

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people across borders all of this is in

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our near future not just in the US but

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elsewhere because we've got too many

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people not enough resources and we're

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spending trillions and trillions and

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trillions and trillions of dollars on

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weapons of war

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military basis massive intelligence and

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whatever none of which helps feed clothe

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uh or shelter anybody

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well except I guess the military guys I

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mean it gives them a place to stay so um

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my my my

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projection is that more than enough has

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been done now to hold the hearings uh

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NASA is is doing its thing May 31 where

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they're going to do go even further with

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a public meeting got to take a lot of

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questions so NASA is now fully on board

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NASA understand is known about the ET

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president since it was formed in 58. all

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right and NASA is our space agency

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NASA's been involved in classified

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assisted our secret space program I

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prefer to call it our classified Faith

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program which has always been there NASA

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is known about DT presses but NASA

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couldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole

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absolutely civilian space agency under

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the 1958 space act it cannot touch it

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without without the defense Department's

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approval which it wasn't going to get

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and so its job was explore space but

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nothing to do with ETS all right and

510
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they've done that but as you know over

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the last two years NASA has completely

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started moving in that direction getting

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on record getting on board right Bill

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Nelson has made strong statements pilt

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Nelson is a former astronaut and and uh

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they set up a group now they're going to

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have a meeting talk about what that

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group is doing take questions in other

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words when disclosure comes and

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hopefully this year NASA will be seen by

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the public as part of the solution

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and it'll be a lot easier for NASA to

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answer the questions as the space agency

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did you know about this before you know

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this year yeah yeah there were some we

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we knews there were people in Arizona

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need to know but we couldn't deal with

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it it wasn't it was we were excluded

529
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based on National Security principles so

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this is this is good so NASA's on board

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so that's May 31.

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now they've already interviewed a bunch

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of witnesses we've had confirmation of

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that from multiple sources so Arrow was

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interviewed a number of the top military

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Witnesses so they could testify tomorrow

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right and and uh we have a number of

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members of Congress that are that are

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indicating they're going to have

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witnesses or have hearings

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and so I think they're going to have

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them now why this summer and and the

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reason for that is simple

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they're facing two

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possible two options here one

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is they somehow don't hold these

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hearings and get this done meaning get

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disclosure from the president this

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summer all right so we go into another

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awful

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negative controversial

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uh incredibly expensive

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presidential year election season

554
00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:46,640
or five well let's see

555
00:23:54,289 --> 00:23:50,760
435 reps and uh approximately 33 or four

556
00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,299
senators are running plus Governors and

557
00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:56,340
state senators and everything else huge

558
00:24:01,130 --> 00:23:57,480
election

559
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:01,140
in which the whole matter of is there an

560
00:24:06,169 --> 00:24:03,120
ET presence or not any D presidency is

561
00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:06,179
still unresolved and most of them are

562
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:07,500
probably staying away from it because

563
00:24:11,149 --> 00:24:09,240
they don't know anything and if they're

564
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:11,159
asked you know they're gonna fumble the

565
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,380
questions and in general

566
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,840
as these people campaign

567
00:24:19,010 --> 00:24:17,520
the public is never going to be able

568
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:19,020
it's not going to be able to get any

569
00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:21,780
sensible answer from any of them or very

570
00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:24,059
few about their thinking about this

571
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:26,340
meaning yeah one of the most important

572
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:28,200
probably the most important issue in our

573
00:24:32,029 --> 00:24:30,179
planet today they're not going to be

574
00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:32,039
able to speak to it but electus anyway

575
00:24:36,049 --> 00:24:34,380
you know just yeah we want to collect

576
00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:36,059
this right can't answer that but elect

577
00:24:42,830 --> 00:24:38,900
this this is this is totally

578
00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,840
uh uh inappropriate and and and not

579
00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:45,000
helpful on the other hand

580
00:24:48,110 --> 00:24:46,980
if they can get disclosure done this

581
00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:48,120
summer

582
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:49,860
which would follow hearings pretty

583
00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:51,600
quickly I think two weeks of hearings I

584
00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:52,980
know the Witnesses are going to testify

585
00:24:56,330 --> 00:24:55,140
it's going to blow people's minds the

586
00:25:00,049 --> 00:24:56,340
members of the Congress their eyes are

587
00:25:01,549 --> 00:25:00,059
going to be a size of saucers and and it

588
00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:01,559
sets the stage for the president to go

589
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,500
hey looks clear to me got an ET presence

590
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:05,760
doesn't matter whether the president

591
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:08,760
knew 10 years ago 20 years ago 40 years

592
00:25:11,390 --> 00:25:10,200
ago what matters is what the president

593
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,400
does now

594
00:25:17,870 --> 00:25:13,919
so now the confirmation is taking place

595
00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:17,880
say it's uh I don't know Late July all

596
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,780
right

597
00:25:23,149 --> 00:25:20,880
the the primaries don't start until

598
00:25:24,769 --> 00:25:23,159
early next year though the fundraising

599
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:24,779
God knows is underway

600
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,820
but the real campaigning won't start

601
00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:29,039
until much later this year

602
00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:32,100
but what does that mean it means that

603
00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:35,220
every single person running for office

604
00:25:39,230 --> 00:25:37,380
in the United States in this

605
00:25:42,169 --> 00:25:39,240
presidential election year

606
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:42,179
we'll know that the presence of

607
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:45,840
non-human entities and technology is

608
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:48,960
fact it's confirmed

609
00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:51,539
and a great deal of the history that has

610
00:25:57,649 --> 00:25:55,140
been dismissed but but but sussed out by

611
00:25:59,930 --> 00:25:57,659
citizen science researchers for decade

612
00:26:02,930 --> 00:25:59,940
after decade but then shoved aside by

613
00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:02,940
the mainstream in fact valid

614
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,919
and so they're going to have to get up

615
00:26:08,269 --> 00:26:06,480
to speed they're going to have to read

616
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,279
up and do a little studying read a

617
00:26:12,409 --> 00:26:10,320
little Don Schmidt read a little Stan

618
00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:12,419
Friedman Little Richard Dolan and so

619
00:26:16,669 --> 00:26:14,279
forth and so forth and get up to speed

620
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:16,679
on this issue because I assure you and

621
00:26:22,010 --> 00:26:19,919
that includes contact because uh once

622
00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:22,020
the confirmation is out there it won't

623
00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:24,360
be long before the contact e phenomena

624
00:26:27,769 --> 00:26:25,980
contact Phenom is going to be confirmed

625
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,779
so they're going to get up to speed and

626
00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:29,760
as they go out and campaign

627
00:26:34,850 --> 00:26:33,000
they can answer any question

628
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:34,860
and they will get asked questions what

629
00:26:39,409 --> 00:26:37,500
is your thinking about this what what do

630
00:26:41,450 --> 00:26:39,419
you think we should do what should be

631
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,460
our policies what do you expect and they

632
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:43,919
can give the the best answer they can

633
00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:47,460
without having to to act stupid or act

634
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:49,820
ignorant

635
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:53,460
this makes for a healthy election in

636
00:26:57,789 --> 00:26:54,600
which

637
00:27:01,610 --> 00:26:57,799
to the extent possible we will know

638
00:27:03,529 --> 00:27:01,620
generally what these people know and and

639
00:27:05,810 --> 00:27:03,539
have learned I mean have you taken the

640
00:27:08,029 --> 00:27:05,820
if some if a candidate post-disclosure

641
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:08,039
goes on the campaign Trail and somebody

642
00:27:10,909 --> 00:27:09,360
says what's your thought about this

643
00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:10,919
extraterrestrial presence and their

644
00:27:15,649 --> 00:27:13,020
answer I haven't really thought about it

645
00:27:19,010 --> 00:27:15,659
don't vote for that person right for

646
00:27:20,090 --> 00:27:19,020
God's sakes uh so that we will get a

647
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,100
full

648
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:23,520
interaction between our spiring

649
00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:26,400
political leaders and the public over

650
00:27:30,590 --> 00:27:27,779
this question

651
00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:30,600
healthy appropriate and the people that

652
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:32,460
will get elected will be ones where we

653
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,659
kind of know where they're coming from

654
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:35,760
because we're going to need as much

655
00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:37,980
responsible leadership as possible at a

656
00:27:42,830 --> 00:27:40,440
post-disclosure world those are the two

657
00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:42,840
options one is awful

658
00:27:48,049 --> 00:27:45,000
and the other is wonderful

659
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,059
and so on that basis and given the fact

660
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:50,340
that I know a lot of the people that are

661
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:52,140
working for us up on the hill and the

662
00:27:56,269 --> 00:27:53,820
dod are actually pretty smart good

663
00:27:59,090 --> 00:27:56,279
people they're not all evil right

664
00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:59,100
they're not all deep state conspiracists

665
00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,900
that are trying to undermine the world

666
00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:02,640
and kill off two-thirds of the

667
00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:04,200
population

668
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,580
and so

669
00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:07,440
I think that they're going to understand

670
00:28:12,110 --> 00:28:09,000
what I've just said

671
00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,120
and understand get this done this summer

672
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,460
before the campaigns formally get

673
00:28:19,310 --> 00:28:16,559
underway late this year

674
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,320
but even in the early fall whatever just

675
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,960
get it done before people have to start

676
00:28:27,289 --> 00:28:24,240
campaigning for president don't have

677
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:27,299
this issue which is now moving along at

678
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:28,559
warp speed

679
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:31,440
still hanging in the air unresolved

680
00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:33,900
right which means all the other

681
00:28:38,029 --> 00:28:36,120
conspiracy theories and side theories

682
00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:38,039
and crazy theories are also up there

683
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,900
hanging in there with them which is the

684
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:41,760
product of the truth embargo

685
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:43,980
we don't want that it's time to get

686
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,380
serious and get adult

687
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:48,480
uh not only about this issue but about

688
00:28:52,909 --> 00:28:50,820
our politics

689
00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:52,919
uh Stephen you've made some fascinating

690
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:54,659
points there in a lot of different ways

691
00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:56,700
we could go off in the conversation and

692
00:29:00,830 --> 00:28:58,500
you've been involved in this topic now

693
00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:00,840
for decades okay and done a lot of work

694
00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:02,400
at a time when we didn't have the

695
00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:04,500
internet or social media the way we do

696
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:06,059
now and you spearhead a lot of

697
00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:08,760
conversation there's people just joining

698
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,100
this conversation and Topic in the last

699
00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:12,720
couple of weeks and months because of

700
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,340
what they see on the mainstream knows

701
00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:16,320
what they see on social media listening

702
00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:18,299
to podcasts reading blogs all of that

703
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:19,860
kind of stuff as well

704
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,260
and they are hating that there's going

705
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:24,480
to be Witnesses coming forward they

706
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,860
might hear whistleblowers you see what

707
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:27,679
their Witnesses okay that's that's nice

708
00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:31,200
Witnesses so I would ask you can you

709
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,480
tell someone new to this topic or who is

710
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,000
still unsure what needs to be said or

711
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:38,640
needs to happen in those hearings that

712
00:29:42,889 --> 00:29:40,559
hasn't happened already and to give you

713
00:29:45,169 --> 00:29:42,899
an example we have seen David favor

714
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:45,179
sitting on 60 Minutes with Alex Dietrich

715
00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:47,279
talking about the the Nimitz Princeton

716
00:29:51,169 --> 00:29:49,080
event and I've seen Ryan Graves talk

717
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,179
about what he's seen so some very

718
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,279
credible people have talked about some

719
00:29:58,010 --> 00:29:55,679
incredible things and it still didn't

720
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,020
cause you know disclosure not that that

721
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,720
necessarily would but what what big

722
00:30:03,649 --> 00:30:01,919
thing is going to happen at these

723
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,659
hearings that is really going to change

724
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,000
the president's mind well you're going

725
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:07,679
to hear

726
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:10,799
a a good deal of the testimony

727
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:12,779
which will come from military Witnesses

728
00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:13,919
I mean it's going to be military

729
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:16,200
Witnesses possibly some civilian

730
00:30:19,789 --> 00:30:17,880
contractors like a Steve Justice maybe

731
00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:19,799
but what military would

732
00:30:23,690 --> 00:30:22,260
because this is being approached from

733
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:23,700
the standpoint of National Security

734
00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:26,880
implications which is great fine it does

735
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:28,679
have National Security implications and

736
00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:30,120
is it totally appropriate to look at it

737
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,799
that way it's not all that's going on

738
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:33,600
but that is a comfortable and safe

739
00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:35,760
political way to approach this

740
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,860
fine what we're going to hear is a lot

741
00:30:42,289 --> 00:30:39,600
of what we already know except we're

742
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,299
going to hear it in a hearing

743
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:45,120
by Witnesses under oath

744
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:47,340
right

745
00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:51,539
lying meaning a penalty perjury

746
00:30:55,130 --> 00:30:53,640
right and we're gonna and the and the

747
00:30:58,370 --> 00:30:55,140
and and the there will be some

748
00:31:00,590 --> 00:30:58,380
classified I'm sure testimony that will

749
00:31:02,210 --> 00:31:00,600
take place but most of this testimony is

750
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:02,220
going to be on camera being watched by

751
00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:04,200
people around the world

752
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:06,600
that's the difference

753
00:31:10,850 --> 00:31:08,760
all right so if you got a hundred or two

754
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:10,860
hundred million people watching Bob

755
00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:12,840
Salas talk about the shutting down of

756
00:31:16,669 --> 00:31:14,700
nuclear missiles that's not the same

757
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:16,679
thing as Bob giving a press conference

758
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,820
with uh uh Robert Hastings in 2010 that

759
00:31:24,169 --> 00:31:22,679
the Press came to and then walked away

760
00:31:27,289 --> 00:31:24,179
and didn't do much

761
00:31:29,630 --> 00:31:27,299
this is this is Showtime

762
00:31:33,049 --> 00:31:29,640
all right the the the the the curtain is

763
00:31:34,190 --> 00:31:33,059
going up on a huge stage the audience is

764
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:34,200
massive

765
00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:37,500
all right and so what it's not that

766
00:31:41,570 --> 00:31:39,419
there's something else that's gonna

767
00:31:44,450 --> 00:31:41,580
suddenly turn up and and that may be the

768
00:31:46,669 --> 00:31:44,460
case then we'll go oh oh you you you

769
00:31:48,889 --> 00:31:46,679
said that happened well then hey we got

770
00:31:51,769 --> 00:31:48,899
to have this class no all we have to do

771
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:51,779
is simply say under oath what we've

772
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:53,880
already been hearing in various ways for

773
00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:55,740
years and years and years

774
00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:58,200
that and the re and and that is the

775
00:32:03,529 --> 00:31:59,640
reason why

776
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:03,539
for for since 1968

777
00:32:09,529 --> 00:32:05,700
every effort to get a hearing in

778
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:09,539
Congress on this issue has been blocked

779
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:15,120
period and what's that 55 years okay

780
00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:16,860
people say oh no no we've had two

781
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:20,340
hearings now no we haven't

782
00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:22,440
Bray and Moultrie came up to give a

783
00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:26,940
briefing to Andre Carson's committee on

784
00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:28,980
progress with respect to the original

785
00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:32,100
program they didn't take an oath I don't

786
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:34,140
believe pretty sure it could be wrong

787
00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:35,880
but I don't think they did didn't need

788
00:32:42,889 --> 00:32:36,899
to

789
00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:42,899
and I

790
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:45,659
I don't think he took an oath and and

791
00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:48,059
even if it even if Moultrie and braid

792
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:49,620
did take an oath and I'm gonna check up

793
00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:53,640
on that again that's not a hearing

794
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:54,600
really

795
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:57,840
uh it was a a briefing questions were

796
00:33:01,250 --> 00:33:00,659
asked what do you know and so forth

797
00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:01,260
um

798
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,740
so the the last hearing we had that was

799
00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:07,200
a true hearing was 68.

800
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:09,299
so the hearings that are coming

801
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:11,640
will be really the first the first since

802
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:14,700
then and the I think the 68 hearing

803
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:16,380
there were four Witnesses and some

804
00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:19,200
outside testimony there there will be

805
00:33:23,389 --> 00:33:21,000
perhaps dozens

806
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:23,399
uh in the hearings that are coming all

807
00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:26,340
right and so it's what we have been

808
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:31,860
trying to get for 50 uh uh uh 55 years

809
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:34,380
is finally going to happen that's a long

810
00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:35,460
time

811
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:38,340
and and I assure you that everything

812
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:41,220
leading up to this the hearing in 66

813
00:33:47,450 --> 00:33:45,720
that took place which was spurred by uh

814
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,460
that might have been the one spurred by

815
00:33:51,769 --> 00:33:49,919
Ford over the Michigan sightings or

816
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:51,779
might have been 68 I think 66 was the

817
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:53,880
one that Ford put together I think it

818
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:55,260
was you know four or five people and

819
00:33:58,970 --> 00:33:56,460
then we're like four or five people or

820
00:34:02,509 --> 00:33:58,980
four people in the 68 hearing one day

821
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:02,519
that's it's all over right uh almost I I

822
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:03,899
don't know if there's even any film of

823
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:05,580
either one of them that are there it

824
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,620
might have been filmed but it's lost in

825
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:09,359
the archives it would be nice to get

826
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,859
that footage

827
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,720
that's nothing compared to what's

828
00:34:18,589 --> 00:34:14,240
happening now what's going to happen

829
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:18,599
massive all right so again

830
00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:21,419
I'm I'm telling people we're winning

831
00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:25,139
and this is going just fine by and large

832
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:27,240
uh but it does need to get done this

833
00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:31,010
you've mentioned the phrase post

834
00:34:35,210 --> 00:34:33,060
disclosure world and I just want to

835
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:35,220
speculate for a moment what does a

836
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,919
setting president do in terms of their

837
00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:39,839
very first acts if it's President Joe

838
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,179
Biden going on to the the cameras of the

839
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:44,639
world and he announces an ET presence

840
00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:46,859
when those cameras turn off what are the

841
00:34:55,250 --> 00:34:49,820
first things you you expect to happen

842
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,109
first

843
00:35:02,750 --> 00:34:59,760
let's see

844
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:02,760
I think in addition to confirming the

845
00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:04,200
Extraterrestrial presence or the

846
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:06,060
non-human intelligence presence what do

847
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:07,140
you want to call it

848
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:10,079
uh the President should make should

849
00:35:13,450 --> 00:35:11,579
certainly assure the public that

850
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:13,460
hearings

851
00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:19,020
as the Congress and the American public

852
00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:20,460
get brought up to speed in other words

853
00:35:24,349 --> 00:35:22,200
whatever hearings have taken place prior

854
00:35:27,230 --> 00:35:24,359
to the confirmation there will be more

855
00:35:30,349 --> 00:35:27,240
okay and he needs to assure them that

856
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:30,359
the administration is committed to

857
00:35:34,849 --> 00:35:33,359
getting uh whatever information can be

858
00:35:38,410 --> 00:35:34,859
brought to the public

859
00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:38,420
will be accurate all right

860
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:42,359
uh and he might indicate that some

861
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,220
information is is still going to remain

862
00:35:48,589 --> 00:35:47,040
classified but we're going to try to

863
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:48,599
keep that at a minimum something like

864
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:49,380
that

865
00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:52,920
uh he may announce something like a new

866
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:55,140
cabinet position is being set up as

867
00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:02,050
extraterrestrial Affairs or or whatever

868
00:36:07,329 --> 00:36:03,800
yeah

869
00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:07,339
uh but maybe not but

870
00:36:12,290 --> 00:36:10,740
the the fundamentally the president's

871
00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:12,300
job

872
00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:15,240
uh really that the the most important

873
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,619
part of the president's job from the

874
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,960
moment he steps in front of the podium

875
00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:21,599
to make the confirmation statement

876
00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:24,780
is to keep the public calm

877
00:36:30,650 --> 00:36:29,880
choke show uh uh calm himself

878
00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:30,660
um

879
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:35,160
and by all means be truthful that the

880
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:37,200
the awareness

881
00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:40,440
almost hyper awareness that the public

882
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:43,380
is going to have

883
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:46,200
with respect to this issue

884
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:49,140
certainly as it goes forward

885
00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:52,680
but may spread to other issues

886
00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:54,540
of

887
00:37:00,829 --> 00:36:57,900
uh truthfulness

888
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:00,839
is going to be extreme

889
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:06,660
and so any efforts to to misstate

890
00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:09,240
uh

891
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:11,660
misrepresent

892
00:37:16,810 --> 00:37:13,560
confuse

893
00:37:19,069 --> 00:37:16,820
are going to be not well received

894
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:19,079
because the the number of people that

895
00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:21,540
are paying attention and the history of

896
00:37:25,609 --> 00:37:24,599
this issue screams it's time to tell the

897
00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:25,619
truth

898
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:31,980
be viewed very badly and so uh that is

899
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:33,660
one of the things the president is going

900
00:37:38,030 --> 00:37:36,240
to have to emphasize meaning okay we're

901
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:38,040
going to get you information you're

902
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:39,599
going to learn more and it's going to be

903
00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:42,079
the truth we are we're going to be as

904
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,720
Vigilant about that either you can't we

905
00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:47,520
can't give we can't inform you about

906
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:49,560
this right now because it is still a

907
00:37:54,589 --> 00:37:51,780
classified National Security matter but

908
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,599
what we will tell you will be the truth

909
00:37:59,930 --> 00:37:56,880
it's going to be no more obfuscation

910
00:38:01,970 --> 00:37:59,940
so these are the kinds of things uh and

911
00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:01,980
then once you know and in the weeks and

912
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:03,540
months to come there will be hearings

913
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:07,980
there will be a lot of things I mean you

914
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:09,960
know it I I just

915
00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:12,060
I can't even begin to describe all that

916
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,099
will take place in the in the weeks and

917
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:15,599
months following the disclosure event

918
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:19,619
but it will be uh uh quite a show and uh

919
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,240
I can't wait for it

920
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:23,700
that one confirmation I think will be a

921
00:38:29,329 --> 00:38:26,280
huge sigh of relief for many no less

922
00:38:31,010 --> 00:38:29,339
than yourself and I'll spring up a

923
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,020
million or a billion different questions

924
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:33,839
off the back of it and I wonder at that

925
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:36,000
point as they're still and I don't know

926
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:37,320
if you touched on it in a way they are

927
00:38:43,010 --> 00:38:40,260
is there still a danger of a new truth

928
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:43,020
embargo coming out because while we then

929
00:38:47,630 --> 00:38:45,300
have a confirmation of an ET presence a

930
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:47,640
non-human intelligence the what the

931
00:38:52,670 --> 00:38:50,099
where the who the why the when the how

932
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,680
many all of that might not even have an

933
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:55,200
answer yet and do entities such as the

934
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,140
Air Force who have tried to to obfuscate

935
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:00,720
this for many many decades do they try

936
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:03,300
then control whatever truth they can

937
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,640
and whatever way they can

938
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,680
well the president

939
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,839
is the one that controls

940
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:12,480
what can come out

941
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:14,520
ultimately in other words the president

942
00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:16,380
has the ability

943
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:18,300
to

944
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,300
pretty much ensure that whatever the

945
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,040
president wants to come from the air

946
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:25,440
force of a Navy or anybody else will

947
00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:27,180
happen

948
00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:30,420
and in a post-disclosure situation the

949
00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:32,040
public will give the president's

950
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,980
substantial license in that regard

951
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,720
I mean if you want to bring a hammer

952
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:39,359
down on the Air Force no problem with us

953
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,240
right

954
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,200
so

955
00:39:50,270 --> 00:39:45,839
no not another truth embargo

956
00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:50,280
what you will see post disclosure is

957
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:52,920
a flow of information regarding this

958
00:39:58,609 --> 00:39:56,339
issue coming out of government sources

959
00:40:02,690 --> 00:39:58,619
which will be true

960
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:02,700
uh and people will be pretty impressed

961
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:05,760
and uh excited about it

962
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:08,460
it will be profound

963
00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:12,119
uh at the same time the people will know

964
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:14,099
that not everything can simply be

965
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:16,140
revealed day two it's not going to

966
00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:18,599
happen that way this thing is tied to

967
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:20,339
National Security there are aspects of

968
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:21,839
it

969
00:40:26,089 --> 00:40:22,560
um

970
00:40:27,530 --> 00:40:26,099
there are deep classifieds programs

971
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:27,540
dealing with this issue that have been

972
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,820
operating for decades they're not just

973
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:31,440
going to throw open the door not to

974
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:32,940
press in

975
00:40:37,970 --> 00:40:35,220
there needs to be an orderly process in

976
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:37,980
which we where we are learning more and

977
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,280
more over a reasonable period of time a

978
00:40:45,470 --> 00:40:43,440
learning curve as it were

979
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:45,480
as

980
00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:51,420
adjusts to the post-disclosure world

981
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,920
which they have had they've known as

982
00:40:56,510 --> 00:40:55,020
coming and they there's a lot of

983
00:40:58,130 --> 00:40:56,520
um effort I'm sure that's been conducted

984
00:41:00,890 --> 00:40:58,140
within the dod I don't know about

985
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:00,900
Department of State or other agencies

986
00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:02,460
but certainly the dod they've been

987
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,500
expecting this for a long time I'm sure

988
00:41:09,050 --> 00:41:06,480
they've scoped it out and and gained it

989
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:09,060
out many times but it's also the truth

990
00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:10,500
we're not that's also the case that

991
00:41:14,690 --> 00:41:11,820
we're not the only government that's

992
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:14,700
going to be revealing information and so

993
00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:16,200
while we may not get something from the

994
00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:18,540
US government we get it from France or

995
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:22,079
the UK or Russia uh this is not just a

996
00:41:27,490 --> 00:41:25,260
U.S game the ET presence is known to

997
00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:27,500
almost every dance gov

998
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:30,500
technological country in the world

999
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,520
oddly enough

1000
00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:35,280
and so they are they're going to be

1001
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,619
freed up and to some degree I think

1002
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:39,920
they'll be competing for attention

1003
00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:42,900
meaning well the United States won't

1004
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:46,020
tell you about this we can come bring

1005
00:41:51,410 --> 00:41:49,020
the cameras okay as world leaders in

1006
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,420
countries by to be part of this

1007
00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:54,240
amazingly profound historical event kind

1008
00:41:58,609 --> 00:41:55,800
of vying for attention

1009
00:42:01,089 --> 00:41:58,619
and so that competition is going to

1010
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:01,099
probably help speed up this

1011
00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:06,660
revealing process uh one way or another

1012
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,480
in the months and years following

1013
00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:11,760
disclosure

1014
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:14,579
a huge amount of information that has

1015
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:16,260
formally been classified and government

1016
00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:18,300
hands is going to be Declassified and

1017
00:42:21,470 --> 00:42:19,859
delivered to the American to the people

1018
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,480
of the world

1019
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,400
at some point the ET is going to step

1020
00:42:27,950 --> 00:42:25,200
into this in my view and I put that in

1021
00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:27,960
about two years meaning open contact and

1022
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:29,880
that's an old another thing right at

1023
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:32,339
that point Lord knows where things will

1024
00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:34,020
go after that but

1025
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:35,460
that's the kind of thing that I expect

1026
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:38,220
and what keeps me uh

1027
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,520
excited and engaged I I believe and I've

1028
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:43,560
said countless times I believe

1029
00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:47,160
disclosure what we call disclosure self

1030
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:49,260
acknowledgment formally heads of state

1031
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:51,000
to ourselves

1032
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:53,700
not some Independence Day ship hanging

1033
00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:57,359
over New York uh is the doorway and

1034
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:59,819
essential to getting to open contact

1035
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,920
and open contacts as far as I'm

1036
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:03,599
concerned post-disclosure Could Happen

1037
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:07,440
anytime but probably a a a a reasonable

1038
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,859
amount of time to get comfortable and

1039
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,440
used to and educated about this issue

1040
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:15,839
and the part of the nations of this

1041
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:18,240
planet and people citizens of those

1042
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,300
Nations should happen and I've always

1043
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,800
said I think about two years is more

1044
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:23,760
than enough

1045
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:26,160
uh given modern Communications and Tech

1046
00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:28,440
that we have obviously if we're talking

1047
00:43:38,270 --> 00:43:35,400
18 uh uh uh 23 and not not uh to 2023 in

1048
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:38,280
1923 not 2023 that learning curve might

1049
00:43:42,349 --> 00:43:40,380
be a hell of a lot longer but now no no

1050
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,359
no no no no our whole planet could get

1051
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:44,520
up to speed in two years or less even a

1052
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:46,260
year might be enough

1053
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:50,400
so for Me Disclosure is just the next

1054
00:43:57,950 --> 00:43:53,460
step to open contact and open contact is

1055
00:44:00,829 --> 00:43:57,960
the next step to us being part of

1056
00:44:03,230 --> 00:44:00,839
and near I say it

1057
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:03,240
the Galactic Federation

1058
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:05,819
right or whatever

1059
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:09,540
ETS call it right and they're and it may

1060
00:44:14,030 --> 00:44:11,700
not be a galactic it could just be kind

1061
00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:14,040
of a regional thing you know so there's

1062
00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:17,579
a lot of stars in in this galaxy uh and

1063
00:44:24,050 --> 00:44:19,560
the number of civilizations May

1064
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:24,060
ultimately just be mind-blowing but so

1065
00:44:28,130 --> 00:44:26,040
it could just be a group kind of in our

1066
00:44:29,809 --> 00:44:28,140
Zone about eight or nine or 10 or 12 or

1067
00:44:31,609 --> 00:44:29,819
20 and they they have kind of an

1068
00:44:32,770 --> 00:44:31,619
understanding they work together so

1069
00:44:36,109 --> 00:44:32,780
whatever the hell you want to call it

1070
00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:36,119
that open contact could then be the next

1071
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:37,859
step to that being involved in that

1072
00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:39,540
because we are

1073
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:41,400
enter we are inner we are a

1074
00:44:46,609 --> 00:44:43,680
space-bearing civilization now

1075
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:46,619
approaching Interstellar capability

1076
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:47,640
hey

1077
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,700
don't blame me or you know our

1078
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:53,040
physicists are working real hard to get

1079
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,960
there and they're making progress

1080
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:57,119
so if there is a way around relativity

1081
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,220
we are going to figure it out

1082
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,200
but and and there's a lot of other

1083
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:02,880
technologies that we're starting to

1084
00:45:07,970 --> 00:45:06,000
figure out uh but we're really not have

1085
00:45:08,990 --> 00:45:07,980
we don't have the emotional IQ to deal

1086
00:45:12,250 --> 00:45:09,000
with

1087
00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:12,260
and so we're creating all this really

1088
00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:17,819
amazing new uh Tech and New Concepts

1089
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:19,800
without considering the impact it's

1090
00:45:26,109 --> 00:45:22,020
going to have on civilization

1091
00:45:29,809 --> 00:45:26,119
uh obviously the the recent one is AI

1092
00:45:33,290 --> 00:45:29,819
we we are we are kids

1093
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:33,300
playing in a Minefield running around

1094
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,880
in a Minefield just jumping up and down

1095
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:37,440
all excited

1096
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:40,920
uh we we we're we're not being we're not

1097
00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:42,540
being responsible

1098
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:45,540
and so whether it's AI or or whether

1099
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:50,400
it's uh massive use of of uh social

1100
00:45:56,650 --> 00:45:52,020
media and Communications by

1101
00:45:58,370 --> 00:45:56,660
seven-year-old kids or or the uh genetic

1102
00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:58,380
developments that we're getting into

1103
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,260
which allow us to really get involved in

1104
00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:03,900
genetic manipulations all of the

1105
00:46:08,510 --> 00:46:06,300
nightmares of our science fiction are

1106
00:46:11,329 --> 00:46:08,520
literally right on the horizon and we're

1107
00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:11,339
going well you know collateral damage

1108
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:13,140
you got to break some eggs

1109
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:18,540
oh no and I've said a few times uh If I

1110
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,520
Was President United States and I

1111
00:46:26,089 --> 00:46:23,760
thought you know and and I I think Biden

1112
00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:26,099
would be brilliant if he did this

1113
00:46:31,309 --> 00:46:29,880
uh we need immediately two new cabinet

1114
00:46:34,849 --> 00:46:31,319
positions

1115
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:34,859
uh one would be a secretary of Peace we

1116
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:36,420
need a department of Peace in this

1117
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:39,000
country with a secretary of peace that

1118
00:46:43,309 --> 00:46:41,099
has cabinet level position

1119
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:43,319
however they could just go up over down

1120
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,060
to the state department cross over to

1121
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,240
the the U.S institute of peace and just

1122
00:46:53,089 --> 00:46:51,359
buy it and make that the department uh

1123
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:53,099
we need someone at the cabinet level

1124
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:55,500
constantly advising the president on

1125
00:47:01,490 --> 00:46:58,800
everything possible to move it to the

1126
00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:01,500
direction of Peace as opposed to war

1127
00:47:07,609 --> 00:47:05,339
uh and we need a secretary of scientific

1128
00:47:10,609 --> 00:47:07,619
and Technology ethics

1129
00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:10,619
absolutely we need a state department we

1130
00:47:15,530 --> 00:47:12,420
need a department level cabinet level

1131
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:15,540
department on Science and Technology

1132
00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:18,660
ethics to advise Congress and the

1133
00:47:22,250 --> 00:47:19,500
president

1134
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,260
on the ethical implications of the

1135
00:47:28,609 --> 00:47:24,720
technology we're creating

1136
00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:28,619
this this would be a bold move and I

1137
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:31,020
think get a lot of attention because if

1138
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,359
we do not start applying

1139
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:36,480
ethics and morality to the technology

1140
00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:38,460
that we create

1141
00:47:43,089 --> 00:47:41,819
uh and and could which might actually

1142
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:43,099
expand

1143
00:47:48,890 --> 00:47:47,099
uh if if uh we get disclosure we get

1144
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,900
confirmation of ET presence where other

1145
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:50,880
texts suddenly emerge out of nowhere oh

1146
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:52,500
we didn't know that

1147
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,300
we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna be

1148
00:47:59,630 --> 00:47:57,359
the victims of our own science fiction

1149
00:48:02,329 --> 00:47:59,640
right all this AI stuff and everything

1150
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,339
and I'm thinking did anybody involved in

1151
00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:03,839
the development of AI watch the

1152
00:48:07,609 --> 00:48:05,640
Terminator series I mean am I the only

1153
00:48:10,849 --> 00:48:07,619
one I mean did they did they miss that

1154
00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:10,859
right but they do they know who Arnold

1155
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:13,260
Schwarzenegger is that they watch those

1156
00:48:19,370 --> 00:48:16,079
movies apparently not it's like hey what

1157
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:19,380
could go wrong so this is these are the

1158
00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:21,960
kinds of things that I think about and

1159
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,619
just a just a just a tiny part of the

1160
00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:27,839
the issues that will be in play in a

1161
00:48:31,490 --> 00:48:29,579
post-disclosure world which hopefully

1162
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,500
arrives by Christmas

1163
00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:33,839
I just wonder you give her a wonderful

1164
00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:35,819
time scale of around two years to

1165
00:48:41,150 --> 00:48:39,060
potential open contact and to bridge

1166
00:48:43,069 --> 00:48:41,160
that gap of that two years say for

1167
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:43,079
example Biden makes the address on a

1168
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:45,420
Friday afternoon and the world gets the

1169
00:48:48,650 --> 00:48:46,800
weekend they're going to soak in that

1170
00:48:50,270 --> 00:48:48,660
information that okay we've had the

1171
00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:50,280
confirmation we're not alone

1172
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:52,200
everyone goes back to work don't they

1173
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:54,180
the following week and schools are open

1174
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:57,119
football games happen and concerts still

1175
00:49:02,569 --> 00:48:59,760
go on and we have a two-year period of

1176
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:02,579
adapting and you mention a potential

1177
00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:05,400
steady release of information various

1178
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:07,500
confirmations further hearings here's

1179
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:09,540
what's happened here's the here's the

1180
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,180
truth here's some of the falsehoods but

1181
00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:14,040
I wonder how do you feel at that point

1182
00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:17,339
that contact comes about is it just does

1183
00:49:21,770 --> 00:49:19,859
groups those entities species are aware

1184
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,780
of us already and it's it's kind of

1185
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:23,520
mutually agreed or do you think there's

1186
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,280
still room there for we go looking with

1187
00:49:30,530 --> 00:49:28,440
the James Webb for example NASA gets

1188
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:30,540
involved and tells us actually there's

1189
00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:32,280
something on this planet here and we

1190
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,660
know what it is have you thought about

1191
00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:35,760
that sure

1192
00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:38,660
yeah I have the slightest interest in

1193
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:42,119
whether the web telescope can determine

1194
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:44,339
that there's life on another planet or

1195
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:47,400
city gets a signal right if City gets a

1196
00:49:53,569 --> 00:49:51,119
signal it it probably took it might have

1197
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:53,579
taken a thousand years to get here right

1198
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:58,200
so what I mean again the

1199
00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:00,900
ETS are already here

1200
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:03,300
they've been in the bedrooms of a lot of

1201
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:05,640
people on this planet maybe Millions

1202
00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:08,640
right what the direct contact I mean how

1203
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,380
how much more engaged can you get than

1204
00:50:14,089 --> 00:50:11,520
that at least on a personal level

1205
00:50:16,670 --> 00:50:14,099
they're already here okay so that that

1206
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:16,680
helps once you get that and and I'm not

1207
00:50:21,290 --> 00:50:19,440
expecting any everybody to get that uh

1208
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,300
because uh for a lot of people that's

1209
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:23,520
just too far and they don't they don't

1210
00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:26,040
want to get into it uh and I appreciate

1211
00:50:30,589 --> 00:50:28,859
that uh but uh I've talked I know enough

1212
00:50:31,609 --> 00:50:30,599
about contact and now it's absolutely

1213
00:50:33,230 --> 00:50:31,619
true

1214
00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:33,240
so the ETS are already engaging as

1215
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,220
they're already in over here so in terms

1216
00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:36,960
of finding signals in space all I can

1217
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:43,490
I'm not let me put it this way

1218
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,000
I understand why they're looking for

1219
00:50:51,470 --> 00:50:49,609
what bothers me

1220
00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:51,480
is that the amount of money that's been

1221
00:50:55,549 --> 00:50:53,339
spent doing that when the ETS are

1222
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:55,559
literally in your backyard money that

1223
00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:57,420
could have been spent on other things

1224
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,880
that bothers me a little bit it also

1225
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:01,200
bothers me that some of the people that

1226
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:02,880
are looking for signals in space no

1227
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:04,740
there's an ET presence but they don't

1228
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,020
get paid to go into that area and

1229
00:51:10,970 --> 00:51:09,240
besides that area is controversial you

1230
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:10,980
go there and you're not going to get

1231
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:12,900
paid and you might get you might get

1232
00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:14,760
criticized we're looking for signals in

1233
00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:16,980
space it's totally cool and so they get

1234
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,500
paid nicely to do that that irritates me

1235
00:51:23,089 --> 00:51:21,599
a little bit and what really irritates

1236
00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:23,099
me is when people that are looking for

1237
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:26,460
signals in space troll or how would you

1238
00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:29,640
say throw shade on the citizen science

1239
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:31,740
researchers that have been doing the

1240
00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:33,480
work in the public sector the government

1241
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:34,740
wouldn't do

1242
00:51:41,690 --> 00:51:38,220
a great at Great cost to themselves

1243
00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:41,700
under ridicule Skeptics

1244
00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:44,040
and that really irritates me

1245
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,980
uh I try not to get too upset by that

1246
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:48,359
there have been a few times in the last

1247
00:51:55,130 --> 00:51:51,180
25 years when I did get upset

1248
00:51:58,910 --> 00:51:55,140
but as injustices go

1249
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,920
it's not that bad when you look at

1250
00:52:02,690 --> 00:52:00,480
if you're an activist and you're looking

1251
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:02,700
at the world and the injustices that are

1252
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:04,140
taking place and the awful things that

1253
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,240
are being done

1254
00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:08,640
for me to get overwrought about the fact

1255
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:10,920
that people looking for signals in space

1256
00:52:15,049 --> 00:52:13,980
uh while the ETS are literally here

1257
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,059
already

1258
00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:17,359
not exactly high on the list of

1259
00:52:24,349 --> 00:52:21,000
injustices so I'm trying to chill

1260
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:24,359
on that you know just accept it it's

1261
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:29,640
okay right so what all right the the one

1262
00:52:32,809 --> 00:52:31,140
thing that seti and some of these

1263
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:32,819
programs have done and even the new ones

1264
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,160
that are being set up they do make it

1265
00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:37,680
it's it's easier for a lot of people to

1266
00:52:42,410 --> 00:52:40,020
embrace that and pay attention to that

1267
00:52:44,329 --> 00:52:42,420
than actually paying attention to you

1268
00:52:46,490 --> 00:52:44,339
know the evidence for an E.T presence

1269
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:46,500
all right so in a sense it's getting

1270
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,260
them closer to the issue and so one

1271
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:50,880
thing the study program has done is is

1272
00:52:54,770 --> 00:52:51,900
certainly

1273
00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:54,780
really educated people all around the

1274
00:53:00,109 --> 00:52:57,900
world to the prospect that contact uh

1275
00:53:01,609 --> 00:53:00,119
that type could happen and if it does it

1276
00:53:02,329 --> 00:53:01,619
means there's other civilizations out

1277
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:02,339
there

1278
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:05,940
but safe I mean they're way far away all

1279
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:09,780
right but still it brings them into the

1280
00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:11,640
room all right

1281
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,339
so in that sense it has served a

1282
00:53:19,069 --> 00:53:16,319
positive you know it's a positive thing

1283
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,079
but you could see again

1284
00:53:25,630 --> 00:53:21,119
not not that there isn't a lot of this

1285
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:25,640
in our in our culture right now but but

1286
00:53:32,390 --> 00:53:30,180
it's crazy when something is going on

1287
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:32,400
and people are doing something and you

1288
00:53:37,790 --> 00:53:34,440
know that they already know something

1289
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:37,800
else and and call it hypocrisy call it

1290
00:53:41,809 --> 00:53:39,960
cognizant dissonance it just kind of

1291
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:41,819
drives you nuts you know what I'm saying

1292
00:53:47,690 --> 00:53:44,579
yeah when a politician gets up there and

1293
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:47,700
and rails about somebody having an

1294
00:53:51,290 --> 00:53:48,839
affair

1295
00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,300
and it's known that that person has had

1296
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,819
an affair it just drives you crazy

1297
00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:56,160
doesn't it it is that's nature all right

1298
00:54:01,970 --> 00:53:58,920
that's just human nature okay I I I

1299
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:01,980
think I need to chill more

1300
00:54:06,290 --> 00:54:04,380
um I know that the seti program will be

1301
00:54:07,790 --> 00:54:06,300
reviewed extensively and people kind of

1302
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,800
want to get anybody in the study program

1303
00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:10,079
know that uh they were already here

1304
00:54:18,049 --> 00:54:14,760
already or or uh uh other programs will

1305
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,059
be will be viewed that way and and you

1306
00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:19,920
know they'll they'll they'll have

1307
00:54:24,890 --> 00:54:22,380
various responses to that ultimately

1308
00:54:27,849 --> 00:54:24,900
everybody will will

1309
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:27,859
will uh use the National Security

1310
00:54:33,410 --> 00:54:31,020
argument meaning I did this I didn't say

1311
00:54:36,290 --> 00:54:33,420
that National Security National Security

1312
00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:36,300
National Security I get it uh National

1313
00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:38,520
Security justifies a whole lot of stuff

1314
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:40,260
far worse

1315
00:54:44,809 --> 00:54:41,880
then

1316
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:44,819
being not having to be mendacious about

1317
00:54:50,030 --> 00:54:47,940
what you know on the ET issue so again

1318
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:50,040
try to be cool

1319
00:54:53,569 --> 00:54:51,960
oh Stephen as we wrap up because you've

1320
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:53,579
been very generous with your time I

1321
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:54,839
normally finish with some listener

1322
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,760
questions but I want to ask you about a

1323
00:55:01,130 --> 00:54:59,040
couple of questions you might have Blue

1324
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,140
Sky Thinking we get that confirmation

1325
00:55:05,569 --> 00:55:03,839
day this summer and Joe Biden comes to

1326
00:55:07,549 --> 00:55:05,579
you and says Stephen your work over the

1327
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,559
last few decades hasn't gone unnoticed

1328
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,839
you know some incredible work and I just

1329
00:55:13,790 --> 00:55:12,000
want to give you first dibs and a couple

1330
00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:13,800
of questions you know what does Stephen

1331
00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:16,140
Bassett want to know first have you got

1332
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:18,059
one maybe two questions that right at

1333
00:55:21,950 --> 00:55:19,920
the top of your head you would need to

1334
00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:21,960
get the answer to if you could get it

1335
00:55:28,970 --> 00:55:26,329
um

1336
00:55:31,549 --> 00:55:28,980
well look I

1337
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,559
the the the the I have well these are

1338
00:55:34,730 --> 00:55:33,119
the key things that I think most people

1339
00:55:37,069 --> 00:55:34,740
will want to know

1340
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:37,079
uh first of all

1341
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,680
uh I want to know whether

1342
00:55:45,170 --> 00:55:43,680
there is technology sequestered

1343
00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:45,180
within the United States government

1344
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:47,819
facilities and or contractor facilities

1345
00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:50,819
which could be of great help to uh the

1346
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:52,740
human race and dealing with its mounting

1347
00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:54,359
problems

1348
00:56:00,890 --> 00:55:57,660
that is sequestered because the truth

1349
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,900
embargo would be jeopardized if it was

1350
00:56:06,290 --> 00:56:02,940
put into use

1351
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:06,300
okay in other words it'd be great if we

1352
00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:08,700
could give this to you guys but we can't

1353
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:10,619
because if we did you'd kind of know

1354
00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:12,480
that the ETS are here and that's still

1355
00:56:17,569 --> 00:56:16,380
embargo right uh so that's one of the

1356
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,579
key questions

1357
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:19,440
uh

1358
00:56:24,530 --> 00:56:22,440
another question is do you do does the

1359
00:56:26,569 --> 00:56:24,540
government have any formal relationship

1360
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:26,579
with these et's already

1361
00:56:31,609 --> 00:56:28,920
has there been any formal relations any

1362
00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:31,619
deal struck whatever treaties I don't

1363
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:33,780
think so but that's a good question have

1364
00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:35,819
you done that all right

1365
00:56:40,490 --> 00:56:38,460
um another question is have you been

1366
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:40,500
involved in the contact

1367
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,760
World in other words have you in any way

1368
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:46,319
uh

1369
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:49,380
how would you say created

1370
00:56:54,890 --> 00:56:52,740
scenarios to simulate contact

1371
00:56:57,290 --> 00:56:54,900
with with with citizens of the country

1372
00:57:00,170 --> 00:56:57,300
in order to get information

1373
00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:00,180
which would be unpleasant but I want to

1374
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:01,980
know that and by the way doesn't mean

1375
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,900
that this is day one question so these

1376
00:57:08,510 --> 00:57:05,819
are the questions but I understand that

1377
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,520
you're not going to necessarily ask that

1378
00:57:12,049 --> 00:57:10,079
question on day one day two day but

1379
00:57:13,609 --> 00:57:12,059
these are the three things that I'd like

1380
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:13,619
to know about

1381
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:14,640
um

1382
00:57:23,089 --> 00:57:20,630
the rest of my those are those are this

1383
00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:23,099
those are three you know near the top

1384
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,619
uh uh

1385
00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:28,079
but the key questions I want is for the

1386
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,359
ETS themselves in other words my

1387
00:57:34,430 --> 00:57:32,880
question my thing would be okay

1388
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:34,440
uh

1389
00:57:38,809 --> 00:57:36,420
here's what I'd like you to ask the ETS

1390
00:57:41,089 --> 00:57:38,819
if there's open contact in two years Mr

1391
00:57:42,530 --> 00:57:41,099
President right

1392
00:57:44,930 --> 00:57:42,540
um

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00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:44,940
uh one uh

1394
00:57:47,690 --> 00:57:46,680
how long have they been engaging the

1395
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:47,700
planet

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00:57:52,430 --> 00:57:50,099
it is the at the ancient in the ancient

1397
00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:52,440
contacts that seem clearly to have

1398
00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:54,900
happened happen uh and how much

1399
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,059
information can we get about the the the

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00:58:01,970 --> 00:57:59,280
the the way we've been engaged in the

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00:58:06,370 --> 00:58:01,980
past and and so for two

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00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:07,970
how

1403
00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:09,960
of course I think I know the answer but

1404
00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:11,940
why did you turn off our nuclear weapons

1405
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:13,740
in repeated instances

1406
00:58:17,569 --> 00:58:16,559
right what was the point of that

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00:58:20,210 --> 00:58:17,579
um

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00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,220
and and and uh

1409
00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:22,319
why the crop circles

1410
00:58:25,609 --> 00:58:24,300
kind of curious to know that why the

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00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,619
crop circles

1412
00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:27,599
and what did you do with all the cow's

1413
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:29,400
blood kind of like to ask that question

1414
00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:33,119
too kind of curious about that uh and

1415
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:34,380
then ultimately again these are

1416
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:35,280
questions that are going to have to be

1417
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:37,859
asked of ETS I think and this would be

1418
00:58:41,569 --> 00:58:39,540
open contact and by the way these are

1419
00:58:44,089 --> 00:58:41,579
tough questions in other words if I'm if

1420
00:58:45,289 --> 00:58:44,099
I'm the ETS and I'm gonna and I suppose

1421
00:58:47,210 --> 00:58:45,299
disclosure world and we're going to do

1422
00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:47,220
open contact I would be hiring a public

1423
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,619
relations firm myself I would you know

1424
00:58:53,990 --> 00:58:51,839
get one of the top firms maybe in every

1425
00:58:57,309 --> 00:58:54,000
major country because they got some

1426
00:59:01,130 --> 00:58:57,319
tough questions to answer as well okay

1427
00:59:02,329 --> 00:59:01,140
uh like uh what's the deal with hybrid

1428
00:59:04,609 --> 00:59:02,339
children

1429
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:04,619
why are you creating hybrids

1430
00:59:11,230 --> 00:59:07,200
where are they okay these are pretty

1431
00:59:16,130 --> 00:59:11,240
cool questions and then you know do you

1432
00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:16,140
have really cool go GoPro cameras that

1433
00:59:20,329 --> 00:59:17,880
you've been using for the last I don't

1434
00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:20,339
know millions of years or at least

1435
00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:23,700
has there been a record of of of our

1436
00:59:27,770 --> 00:59:25,619
planet going back who knows how many

1437
00:59:29,390 --> 00:59:27,780
hundreds of thousands of years that you

1438
00:59:30,670 --> 00:59:29,400
happen to have on file that we could

1439
00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:30,680
look at

1440
00:59:37,789 --> 00:59:34,380
could we see our past have you been

1441
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,799
recording anything uh can I download it

1442
00:59:44,030 --> 00:59:41,040
uh is it searchable I mean I mean just

1443
00:59:46,190 --> 00:59:44,040
imagine that I mean we we it seems

1444
00:59:49,789 --> 00:59:46,200
ridiculous but guess what

1445
00:59:51,230 --> 00:59:49,799
uh that's what we do now and a thousand

1446
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:51,240
years from now if you want to come back

1447
00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:53,700
and research the 21st century believe me

1448
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:56,700
barring a nuclear war a massive impact

1449
01:00:00,829 --> 00:59:59,520
by a by a comet there it's all going to

1450
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:00,839
be and you can literally come back and

1451
01:00:06,049 --> 01:00:03,599
look at the 21st century in granular

1452
01:00:08,569 --> 01:00:06,059
detail a lot of stuff of course you

1453
01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:08,579
would probably want to avoid imagine if

1454
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,859
you could do that for the Civil War

1455
01:00:15,770 --> 01:00:12,960
or the fall of Rome

1456
01:00:18,289 --> 01:00:15,780
or you know the the whatever the hell

1457
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,299
happened to go Becky tipley go yeah I

1458
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:21,359
think I got it right go back imagine if

1459
01:00:26,650 --> 01:00:23,640
that was available it could be because

1460
01:00:29,150 --> 01:00:26,660
they got the tech right did they record

1461
01:00:32,030 --> 01:00:29,160
they said these are some of the

1462
01:00:33,530 --> 01:00:32,040
questions that for for them and and uh

1463
01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:33,540
and what have you but I'm sure but I

1464
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:36,420
ultimately I have a thousand questions

1465
01:00:41,569 --> 01:00:39,359
but so does everybody else and so it's

1466
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,579
going to be a lot of competition and

1467
01:00:45,170 --> 01:00:43,680
getting getting to crush yourself you

1468
01:00:46,370 --> 01:00:45,180
know it's like one it's like you know

1469
01:00:48,109 --> 01:00:46,380
it's like you have one of these events

1470
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,119
where there's like 10 000 people in the

1471
01:00:51,309 --> 01:00:49,920
audience and says does anybody have a

1472
01:00:53,930 --> 01:00:51,319
question

1473
01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:53,940
for our guest tonight you know the

1474
01:00:58,250 --> 01:00:56,040
chances of getting your question is you

1475
01:01:01,130 --> 01:00:58,260
know very very low

1476
01:01:03,410 --> 01:01:01,140
uh but yeah no these this is just a

1477
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:03,420
glimpse of some of the things that might

1478
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:06,480
come up uh I know it sounds crazy to

1479
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:08,220
some people but it actually is totally

1480
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,359
logical

1481
01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:11,760
but I honestly believe you'd be very

1482
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:13,740
well deserving of being close to the

1483
01:01:16,370 --> 01:01:14,760
front of the queue for those questions

1484
01:01:19,309 --> 01:01:16,380
anyway Stephen for the work you've done

1485
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:19,319
over this the decades and continue to do

1486
01:01:22,430 --> 01:01:21,000
um just to finish up your website does

1487
01:01:24,589 --> 01:01:22,440
say you're soon to be part of a new

1488
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:24,599
project based out of California is that

1489
01:01:28,849 --> 01:01:26,160
something you're any place to talk about

1490
01:01:31,609 --> 01:01:28,859
yet I can't I can't talk about that yet

1491
01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:31,619
uh it's been in various stages of

1492
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:32,760
development

1493
01:01:38,089 --> 01:01:35,460
uh I might hopefully be able to announce

1494
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:38,099
something soon uh but I do want to

1495
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:40,140
emphasize this very important conference

1496
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:43,140
coming up contacting the desert uh in

1497
01:01:50,329 --> 01:01:47,520
Indian Wells uh uh it's going to be

1498
01:01:51,549 --> 01:01:50,339
quite an event and and there have been

1499
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:51,559
seven before

1500
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:54,900
uh and this one is uh coming out of the

1501
01:01:58,430 --> 01:01:55,920
pandemic

1502
01:02:01,069 --> 01:01:58,440
so it's uh it's gonna take a while to

1503
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:01,079
get back up to the massive turnouts they

1504
01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:02,520
had but it's going to be in the big

1505
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:04,740
numbers and then also I want to mention

1506
01:02:08,770 --> 01:02:06,540
that I'm I'm going to be speaking at

1507
01:02:12,349 --> 01:02:08,780
another even bigger event

1508
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:12,359
uh in in November called Stairway To the

1509
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,480
Stars which is a new event by the

1510
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,000
disclosure Fest Foundation which is

1511
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,880
actually a very uh big non-profit

1512
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:22,319
operation

1513
01:02:26,690 --> 01:02:24,900
they are I believe I my understanding is

1514
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:26,700
they're booking the entire Luxor Hotel

1515
01:02:32,030 --> 01:02:30,240
for this event that's 4 000 rooms and of

1516
01:02:34,609 --> 01:02:32,040
course all the conference space

1517
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:34,619
how much bigger than that can you get

1518
01:02:39,530 --> 01:02:37,380
right and that's November 10 and then in

1519
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:39,540
December about the same time and all

1520
01:02:44,569 --> 01:02:41,760
this is up on my website I'm going to be

1521
01:02:47,049 --> 01:02:44,579
speaking at a a a a a major conference

1522
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:47,059
in Mexico City you the World ufology

1523
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:48,960
Conference there have been a number of

1524
01:02:53,329 --> 01:02:52,079
these this is a new group that have been

1525
01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:53,339
pulling these events they're they're

1526
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:55,859
don't they're very well done and growing

1527
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:58,319
and this one in Mexico City is going to

1528
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,960
be very large and given what could

1529
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:02,160
happen

1530
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:05,760
between now and November and December

1531
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:07,680
anything along the lines that I've been

1532
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:10,380
talking about I can't even imagine

1533
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:14,400
how big they will be how Insight excited

1534
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,260
things will be how intense things will

1535
01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:18,720
be I mean it will be a there was already

1536
01:03:22,430 --> 01:03:20,640
planned already happening and then

1537
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,440
something major breaks on this issue

1538
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:24,720
they're going to be massive celebrations

1539
01:03:29,329 --> 01:03:28,020
in Mexico City in the Luxor Hotel as

1540
01:03:31,069 --> 01:03:29,339
people are running around you know

1541
01:03:32,750 --> 01:03:31,079
talking about stories and you know

1542
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:32,760
trying to get everybody's views on

1543
01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:34,020
what's going on and what do you think

1544
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,540
and my God we got this closure and

1545
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:38,400
probably too many people drinking too

1546
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:40,200
much uh

1547
01:03:45,130 --> 01:03:43,680
that that could be cool so uh all these

1548
01:03:47,690 --> 01:03:45,140
are on my website Paradigm

1549
01:03:50,089 --> 01:03:47,700
researchgroup.org go under resources go

1550
01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:50,099
to conferences upcoming and you can see

1551
01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:52,380
all the events coming up and also I have

1552
01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:54,420
a page where you know under about that

1553
01:03:59,030 --> 01:03:56,280
says where I'm speaking including my

1554
01:04:01,069 --> 01:03:59,040
interviews and on my website you can go

1555
01:04:02,809 --> 01:04:01,079
to subscription And subscribe to the

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1558
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1559
01:04:15,289 --> 01:04:12,119
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1560
01:04:19,069 --> 01:04:15,299
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1561
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:19,079
I I accept all Twitter followers uh you

1562
01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:20,640
can't have too big a Twitter following

1563
01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:22,020
that's just the way it is of the modern

1564
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,119
world I'm not on Tick Tock don't expect

1565
01:04:28,609 --> 01:04:27,119
to be but uh definitely on Twitter

1566
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:28,619
so uh

1567
01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:31,920
uh that's uh that's the latest

1568
01:04:35,150 --> 01:04:33,480
awesome and you'll find all of those

1569
01:04:37,069 --> 01:04:35,160
links in the description to the podcast

1570
01:04:38,569 --> 01:04:37,079
below as well um so you can just click

1571
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,579
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1572
01:04:42,170 --> 01:04:40,799
always wonderful speaking to you and I

1573
01:04:43,549 --> 01:04:42,180
hope even a small part of what we've

1574
01:04:44,569 --> 01:04:43,559
talked about comes true in the following

1575
01:04:46,910 --> 01:04:44,579
months

1576
01:04:49,250 --> 01:04:46,920
uh let's let's hope this is the Year my

1577
01:04:51,470 --> 01:04:49,260
friend uh and and anytime you need me

1578
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:51,480
you give me a call come on that is all

1579
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,400
for this week's show thank you very much

1580
01:04:57,530 --> 01:04:55,440
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1592
01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:23,940
keep looking up you never know what you

1593
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:51,960
foreign

1594
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:00,049
[Music]

1595
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:36,850
myself

1596
01:07:23,170 --> 01:06:51,210
[Music]

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01:07:23,180 --> 01:07:33,780
what's that is saucer

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01:08:11,070 --> 01:08:05,390
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thank you